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Don and Louise Wyman, Friends of King George Hospital - Essex, Goodmayes

Don and Louise Wyman, Friends of King George Hospital

Don and Louise Wyman - Essex, Goodmayes

Volunteering to support their community began for the Wymans with the PTA at their childrens school.

The League of Friends recognised their skills as fundraisers, and they were soon recruited to the newly formed group.

We’ve done many good things, which to my mind makes it all worthwhile. I think it’s well worth the effort.

Over 50 years later they are still involved. They have got involved in everything from manning evening shifts at the Friends shop, to being Trustees. Don was Chairman of the group for 22 years.

Volunteering as service to the community

Interviewer
Thank you both so much for inviting us this afternoon. So could I ask your names to start with?

Don and Louise Wyman
My full name is Donald Wyman.

Interviewer
Okay. And?

Louise Wyman
My name’s Louise.

Interviewer
And could I ask how old you both are?

Don and Louise Wyman
Well, I’m 93.

Louise Wyman
I’m 89.

Interviewer
You are the youngster

Louise Wyman
Oh yes, the youngster. Four years.

Interviewer
Absolutely. So could I ask which friends group we are talking about today?

Don and Louise Wyman
Sorry, Say that again?

Interviewer
Which friends group? What’s the name of the League of Friends that we are talking about today?

Don and Louise Wyman
We’re talking about King George League of Friends.

Interviewer
Thank you

Interviewer
Thank you. So I understand that you were part of the group that set the Friends group up, the League of Friends up. Is that true?

Don and Louise Wyman
Not exactly true, but we were there from practically the beginning. because I was on the League of Friends of the local school, sorry, the Committee of the local school. And when our children left, the woman who was running the League of Friends said right, from now on you are coming on to our committee, I literally didn’t have much of a choice. Well

Dan and Louise Wyman
The woman it was, it was Pam

Don and Louise Wyman
Goldring. Pam Goldring, yes. And she was the one who started it out. But so, but then of course it was in the old hospital, and we had two shops there.

League of Friends in King Georges in the 1970's

Interviewer
So, so what era are we talking about? When did you join the, 1970s?

Don and Louise Wyman
That would be 1968.

Interviewer
Okay.

Don and Louise Wyman
Yes. I worked it out.

Interviewer
I’m impressed. so was the League of Friends quite new then?

Don and Louise Wyman
It had been going for one or two years, but I couldn’t say exactly how many years. No.

Interviewer
That’s okay. And were there lots of volunteers involved? Was it quite a big group or what ?

Don and Louise Wyman
We had a committee if I can remember, of about 10, it was because the hospital didn’t have a hall. We had to raise money in various means apart from the two shops.

Interviewer
Okay.

Don and Louise Wyman
We used to have boot sales in the concourse. Okay. As an example.

Interviewer
Okay. So they had two shops. And what sorts of things did the shop sell?

Don and Louise Wyman
Well, one sold confectionary, and the other one sold groceries. And, I can remember I used to volunteer after work because I was working then. And I’d come home from work, have supper, and go, and volunteer for a couple of hours. And I remember it was so quiet that taking two pound fifty pence, the whole evening, which wasn’t a lot of money, but they asked me to do it. So I did it.

Interviewer
It was about providing a service, I should think as well, wasn’t It?

Don and Louise Wyman
Yes. Yes. We, used to try to man it in the evenings as well, apart from the day. But we were very keen to keep it going.

Interviewer
And so you said you were persuaded by this lovely lady to join in. Yes. What made her think that you might be the right sort of people to do it, do you think?

Don and Louise Wyman
Well, because she saw that we were very hardworking people in raising money for the school. For Ilford County High at that time. And I used to be the Treasurer for that school for quite a few years.

Interviewer
So she picked you out for your skills?

Don and Louise Wyman
Yes, indeed. Yes. It was, there was another couple called Cecil and Marie Layton who had children the same age as ours, and we both left together. So the four of us actually joined at the same time. Yes.

Interviewer
And you both volunteered?

Louise Wyman
We both volunteered, yes.

Volunteering alongside full time work

Interviewer
And so you said that you used to go after work to spend time there?

Louise Wyman
Yes, we both went after work.

Interviewer
Yes. Okay. So what did you both do? What were your jobs?

Louise Wyman
Well, I was working at that time was with the London Borough of Redbridge.

Don and Louise Wyman
And I was a sign maker, shop signs.

Interviewer
So were you based locally or in the city?

Don and Louise Wyman
No, I worked actually East End in fact. Okay.

Don and Louise Wyman
Louise was local.

Louise Wyman
Yes.

Interviewer
Excellent. And before we started the interview, you said you’d originally moved from closer into London.

Don and Louise Wyman
Yes. Well, when we got married we found a flat in Stoke Newington, and we lived there for seven years.

Interviewer
And what made you move out to here?

Don and Louise Wyman
I had three children.

Louise Wyman
The flat wasn’t big enough.

Interviewer
Okay.

Volunteering in the Jewish Community

Don and Louise Wyman
We didn’t have room for them in the flat, but because we are Jewish there was a flourishing, it still is a flourishing Jewish community in this district, which we still partake with. Yes.

Interviewer
Well, I picked up that there’s quite a strong Jewish involvement in the League of Friends.

Don and Louise Wyman
Yes, in fact there was more Jewish members than us.

Interviewer
So why do you think that was?

Don and Louise Wyman
Well, I could only assume that the Jewish people as a whole are volunteering orientated.

Interviewer
Okay. So it’s part of your faith yes? Part of your, how you work in a community. Excellent. That’s really interesting. Because I’d sort of picked that up, but we haven’t actually captured that as an idea. So, okay. And so this is in about 1970. Let’s pick that as a nice round date.

Don and Louise Wyman
Yes,I would say so.

Buying equipment for the hospital

Interviewer
We are about, we are about 55 years ago.

Don and Louise Wyman
Yes.

Interviewer
So what changes did you see in the League of Friends over 55 years?

Don and Louise Wyman
Well, from the beginning, our main intention was patients comfort. The money we raised was money for patients comfort. But when we moved into the hospital, and they gave us this lovely shop, and we started when we realised that we could make, raise a lot of money, and the hospital realised that, then they started asking us to buy essential equipment, which they couldn’t afford to buy because as you may know, from year one, the hospital has been in debt. If I can expand on that, is that when the hospital was built, I went to the first AGM of the Committee, and they were a million pounds in debt. And they said, oh, what are we going to do about it? Oh, we’re going to do this and we’re going to do that, and blah, blah.

Don and Louise Wyman
And I go in there the next year, and I say, “how did you get on”? It’s two million pounds of debt? And, so it increased every year, and reached the stage some years ago when they were so badly in debt that they had, didn’t have any money to pay the bills. They had to have emergency government help. But we have bought many, many essential equipment items, as an example, a camera, which can go down the throat, at that time cost 30,000 pounds. We were setting up two departments in King George. One was when a machine called Gideon, have you heard of it? Gideon machine? It’s, it’s to do with gas, well, to describe it, beforehand, if you had internal bleeding, you would have operations to try, and find out where it was.

Don and Louise Wyman
This invention was by Israeli and American doctor, but the patient swallows the camera, and as it went through the intestine, tested it, photographed on the belt the whole film, at the end of it, which would have taken about three hours before, the surgeon would then take off this film, and put it on a screen, and you can see exactly where the problem was. And at that time, going back now, perhaps 40 years it cost 25,000 pounds. And King George was the first hospital in London to have that machine. And when other hospitals found out that we had the machine, they were sending their patients to us, and we would charge them a thousand pounds. So within a month it was paying for itself.

Don and Louise Wyman
So that was one of the things that we did. I had a doctor come to me and he said, “I’m a vascular surgeon, and I would like to start up a vascular surgery here, but I need, at that time it was like 20,000 pound for instruments”. So, we gave him the money, and he was able to start a vascular surgery. And I could go back over the years, the various things that we bought, like a geriatric ward, we bought in special wheelchairs so that instead being stuck by their bed, they could go to the wheelchair, and they could come to the center of the room to eat and talk together, which they couldn’t do before. So we’ve done many good things, which to my mind, it makes it all worthwhile. You know, I mean, apart from all the little things like dozens of fans, and I could, I could go on, and on things that we bought in the past. But I think from what I’ve done, I think it’s well worth the effort.

Becoming Chair of the Friends

Interviewer
And, and have you made new friends, and have you enjoyed volunteering?

Don and Louise Wyman
Oh, absolutely. I mean, the friends I made in the League was absolutely vital to me, because especially people that I wouldn’t have met before. And what I used to do is meeting the public. Because we also worked in the shop. We all took our turns in what we called a three hour shift, morning, and afternoon mainly. And meeting the public to me was great. So, you know, I always have a little rapport between customers. Always have a joke or two if I can.

Interviewer
So at some stage, one assumes you must have retired from sign writing?

Don and Louise Wyman
Yes. Yes.

Don and Louise Wyman
1996

Interviewer
Did you do more volunteering, or how did that work?

Don and Louise Wyman
Well, actually, in actual fact 96 was about three years after we moved into the new hospital. And at that time, the Chair lady was called Joyce McDonald. And she, out of the blue, at a committee meeting, and she says “now I’m telling you all, now I’m going to resign immediately, and I want a volunteer to take over”. Of course we all said to her, why, but we, we didn’t realise then that she was actually dying of cancer at that time, but she didn’t tell us that. So we were all sitting around this table, and she was asking everybody, would you take over as Chairman? It just so happens in 96, I had retired from work, so I thought, well, why not, you know, give me an interest. So I took over little realising that I would do it for the next 22 years.

Interviewer
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Don and Louise Wyman
Which could be some sort of record for the Chairmanship, but I say this, in 22 years, I never missed a committee meeting.

Interviewer
And do you have any favourite memory of being the Chairman?

Don and Louise Wyman
Favourite memories of the committee?

Interviewer
Yes. Of you being Chairman, your time as Chair. Do you have any favourite memory of that?

Don and Louise Wyman
Well, I used to be in awe of Cecil Layton, who was Treasurer because although I was the Chairman, when we had requests from the hospital, they would come to me ,and I would read it out, and I would say to him, “can we afford it”? So it was up to him to say, “well, we can afford it” or not, you know, and if he said “no, it’s too much”, then we just dropped it. But if we said, okay, then we vote on it. And if we agree, as we 9 times out of 10 did agree, very few things had to be turned down. If it had a request, then we buy it. But what you must remember is, we used to donate 50,000 pounds a year to the hospital. And as I say, It’s now reached 2 million pounds. So like that. So without us, I think it wouldn’t be the same hospital, because we’ve certainly bought things which they couldn’t afford to buy.

Friends are still needed today

Interviewer
And the world has changed a lot in the last 50 odd years. Do you think we still need Leagues of Friends today to support the NHS?

Don and Louise Wyman
Absolutely. Because as you realise, they’re still in trouble financially, more so now than ever. And you could only see the present climate, what’s going on in the hospitals today. And yes, they certainly need us. And I, unfortunately, had a few visits to the hospital recently, and I’ve talked to various nurses, and doctors there, and I said to them that we in the process of trying to get the shop open again, I said, “oh yes, please, yes, please”, they said to us, “there’s a shop down there, they charge you two pound for a bottle of water, two pound for a bottle of water”, you know, so disgusting.

Interviewer
A different world. Yes. So when you knew that I was coming to see you today, is there anything you thought about that you wanted to tell me that you haven’t had the chance to yet?

Don and Louise Wyman
Well, I must admit I didn’t really know the reason why you was coming.

Interviewer
Okay.

Don and Louise Wyman
I know you wanted to discuss the League of Friends, but I didn’t realise that you was going to record it. And so I hadn’t really given it much thought.

Interviewer
Well, you’ve done very well, I have to say. And it’s been really interesting. The interesting thing about this whole project is that all the different stories sort of combine together to give an overview of what communities have done to help their hospitals. And certainly it’s been lovely to hear the contribution that has been going on here for so long. And thank you for that.

Don and Louise Wyman
Oh, you’re welcome.

About this story

Contributor: Don and Louise Wyman
Recorded on: 9 May 2025
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Friends of King George Hospital

Founded in 1971, the Friends of King George Hospital is a group of volunteers under the League of Friends organisation, dedicated to assisting the patients and staff of the King George Hospital in Ilford.

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